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Husband of Saudi rape victim sentenced to 200 lashes and six months in prison speaks out. Still claims Saudi society is respectful of women, "in general", and that his wife will get justice. He says, "she's a crushed human being." Under the law in Saudi Arabia, women are subject to severe restrictions, including a strict dress code, a prohibition on driving, they are not allowed to testify in court, and are not allowed to vote. Also, they must get a man's permission to travel or have surgery. This is "respectful of women, in general"?!?
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RE: Saudi woman. A friend said yesterday, "Well, it's their way." I said, "If it's their WAY to abuse women, then it's my way to call them a bunch dicks with fan belts on their heads." F*ck them.
"fan belts on their heads"? Hmmm, I will have to withdraw to my inner safe place and meditate on that concept.
I can never respect a people that treats their citizens (especially women) with such disrespect and aplomb. Of course, our (U.S.) government has no real balls or they would take a firmer stand against the Saudis for their atrocities. Hell, we didn't even slap their hands for Osama and his terrorist Saudi homeboys attacking our country and killing 3,000 people. Think we will lift a ethical finger to give two shits about some poor sick Saudi female who's going to be beaten and imprisoned because she was stupid enough to allow herself to be gang raped?
Effing Saudis!
Saudi women are allowed to vote and can drive cars by them selfs.
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If you did care about those women or the cause I would think youd check your sources instead of just going about what you "hear".
About the "not allowed to testify in court", I am not sure, but check wikipedia or something a bit more reliable source than what ever you hear over in the states
Just a correction..
Dear "Anonymous" ~ I am quoting news sources and not strictly U.S. news sources with the statements about the rights of Saudi women. I also checked the references with the words from the Saudi court records (even though that information is not shared in this short post). I don't see your references for your statements that contradict mine. You can click the links in the post and check mine yourself should you desire. What I don't understand is how a possible misquoting of a "fact" could mean that I do not care about abuse of humans and women, in particular. It is well known that women in almost every society is not treated with equal fairness as are men.
Are you saying that because you think women have the right to drive and vote (according to your sources) that the court's decision to punish and publicly humiliate a gang rape victim is completely all right? Strange logic indeed.
Here are further references to validate the assumptions made in this Bonez post. Some taken directly from your recommendations:
"They cannot vote, travel without the explicit approval of husband or a male guardian, drive, or work in most government offices. Even when hired in a private office, they are usually put in a separate room from men." ~ Inter Press Service - Jeddah, Saudi Arabia - Saudi Arabia: Women Say Religious Traditions Block Their Rights
"Saudi women face severe discrimination in many aspects of their lives, including education, employment, and the justice system and are clearly regarded as inferior to men. In the legal system, women face discrimination as the criminal laws of Saudi Arabia adhere to strict Islamic precepts. Women may not testify unless it is a personal matter that did not occur in the sight of men. The testimony of a woman is not regarded as fact but as presumption. The reasons women are forbidden to testify in proceedings are:
1. Women are much more emotional than men and will, as a result of their emotions, distort their testimony.
2. Women do not participate in public life, so they will not be capable of understanding what they observe.
3. Women are dominated completely by men, who by the grace of God are deemed superior; therefore, women will give testimony according to what the last man told them.
4. Women are forgetful, and their testimony cannot be considered reliable.
As a result of these laws women are particularly vulnerable in cases of assault and/or rape, as their testimony is treated as a presumption, while that of their attackers is accepted as fact. In some cases, victims of sexual assault are punished on the grounds that they should not be alone with unrelated males.
Women are not allowed to drive or ride bicycles on public roads in large cities. However, some do so on rural roads illegally. Women are allowed to fly aircraft, though they must be chauffeured to the airport. Women cannot be admitted to a hospital, examined by a doctor, travel abroad or leave the house without the express permission and/or company of an immediate male relative. Prior to 2008, women were not allowed to enter hotels and furnished apartments without a chaperon or “mahram.” With a 2008 Royal Decree, however, the only requirement needed to allow women to enter hotels are their national ID cards, and the hotel must inform the nearest police station of their room reservation and length of stay." ~ Wikipedia - Human rights in Saudi Arabia
"This is still a society completely dominated by men: Women cannot go out in public without a male chaperone or without being covered from head to toe in black. They cannot drive, nor can they run a business in their own name; women must have a mahram, an agent, usually the closest male relative.
Of course, women can't vote or participate in politics at any level - nor can most men." ~ Christian Science Monitor (World/Middle East) - Saudi women, long silent, gain a quiet voice
"Yet women are not allowed to drive, are subject to beatings from the vice squad for "morality lapses", such as appearing in public without full cover of the abaya, and are routinely treated as second-class citizens." ~ Council on Foreign Relations - Saudi Women Should be Given Citizens' Rights
UN Call for Saudi Women's Rights
"Saudi Women's Rights Activist Wajiha Al-Huweidar Criticizes Middle Eastern Men, Saudi Society; Says Condition of Saudi Women is Worse than at Guantanamo" ~ Turkish Weekly
"This is a step in the right direction for more women's rights," said Qahtani of restrictions that also preclude women from driving or travelling abroad unless they are with their husband or another close male relative." ~ Middle East Times - Unchaperoned Saudi Women Can Stay in Hotels
Women in Islam
And finally, one of the best links is probably from a group of Saudi Women who are petitioning the Saudi King for more equal rights...
"Women in Saudi Arabia are deprived fundamental rights, and there is clear evidence that your country is neglecting the international laws you have agreed to obey. We strongly urge you to uphold your obligations and take urgent action on the following matters where women are denied their fundamental rights through:
• Severe discrimination in the courts, homes and workplaces;
• Being denied permission to drive;
• Being restricted from access to educational institutions and the workforce;
• Being denied the right to leave home, enrol in school or university, seek medical help or open a bank account without the permission of a male or guardian.
• Infliction of cruel and inhumane treatment whilst in custody of the religious police, the Mutawwa’in." ~ Saudi Arabian Women's Rights (SAWR) blog
... and thousands more available to anyone with an open heart and mind who cares enough to educate themselves to the plight of our fellow humanity around the world.
well as long as I know the sudi law is very harsh to mankind, I can remember one case where they cut a persons hand for stealing some bread.
Sudipta Das
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Sudipta Das ~ such instances of human rights abuse and inhumane treatments of people are regular occurrences in the Islamic controlled world. Public humiliation and canning is common in Indonesia and other Islamic majority countries. Severing of fingers, hands and even feet have been reported as just punishments for even "petty" crimes like theft. Let's not even go into the torment faced by homosexuals or women. To much of the world such behavior seems to prove the Islamic controlled peoples are barbaric, backwards and uncivilized and are to be feared and shunned. Very sad since most Muslims are wonderful peaceful souls and wish for peace like their non-Islamic brethren.
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